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taterbug
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posted 02-28-2004 08:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for taterbug     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have been working on a beautiful piece of music I found in an old (1976) book of Bach violin transcriptions by Alexander Bellows. It is called Sarabande and is from Bach's violin partita number 1. There are also two more sheets of music after this one titled simply "Double" but it is clearly similar to the the "Sarabande" and I have been playing them as one piece. I might be showing my musical ignorance here, but what do these titles mean? Is anyone familiar with these pieces? Usually I hear something I like and then find music for it. I have not heard this played. I am playing it with a flowing tempo at a medium pace. Any recommendations on a CD that has this piece played correctly? There are two sharps but I believe this piece is in Bm, not D.

D Norton
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posted 02-28-2004 09:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for D Norton   Click Here to Email D Norton     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bach's first violin partita (BWV 1002) consists of four "traditional" dances which comprise a Baroque-era suite: allemande, courante, sarabande, and a bouree instead of the more usual conclusory gigue. Each of these dance movements is followed in this partita by a "double", or variation, on the preceding dance.

The Sarabande and Bouree (with or without their respective doubles) from this partita have been a long-accepted part of the CG repertoire for over 100 years. Francisco Tarrega, Miguel Llobet, and Andres Segovia each made guitar versions of these works. The entire partita has been recorded on CG by the following:

Kazuhito Yamashita (Crown CD, #CRCC-7001~2)
Paul Galbraith (Delos CD, DE 3232)
Adam Del Monte (GSP CD, 1020)

IMHO, the allemande and courante don't work so well on guitar due to their more linear structure. The sarabande and bouree are more chordal in nature and sound quite well on CG.

For a really bizarre interpretation, steel-string player John Renbourn recorded the Sarabande in about 1968 on an electric guitar with very heavy vibrato. Al DiMeola also recorded the Sarabande somewhere.

David

taterbug
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posted 02-28-2004 12:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for taterbug     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for the info. I'll have to track down one of those recordings. Maybe Amazon. The same book also has the Bourree. I have not tried to tackle it yet but it looks to be within my capabilities. The other stuff looks way to difficult for me.

[This message has been edited by taterbug (edited 02-28-2004).]

bellebutton
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posted 02-28-2004 05:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bellebutton   Click Here to Email bellebutton     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Al DiMeola played Sarabande for Violin Sonata in B Minor on "Land of the Midnight Sun" I'm a huge Al DiMeola fan!

Jim

[This message has been edited by bellebutton (edited 02-29-2004).]

Cjsolo
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posted 03-01-2004 11:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cjsolo   Click Here to Email Cjsolo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Taterbug,

Allemande, Courante, Sarabande, Gigue and Chaconne are all Baroque (I think) dance forms. A Sonata typically has four movements and a Partita typically has five.
It's been so long since I went to school that I don't remember all this, but I think the double is just a faster variation of whatever is before it. Take for instance Bach's lute suite #2 in a minor (BWV 997). The last movement is really two movements with a hyphen (gigue-double).
Many of the dance forms have two themes (think of a and b) that repeat (a, repeat, b, repeat). The chaconne is more of a "theme and variation." Listen to the Chaconne from Partita #2 in d minor (BWV 1004) - each little section is fairly different that the others, but the chord progression is the same through them all.

Anyway, that's probably more information than you wanted. The long and short of it is - the titles are dances forms with different tempos/time signatures.

For your listening pleasure, I would highly recommend Manuel Barrueco CDs "Bach & De Visee" and "J.S. Bach Sonatas."

D. Norton - check out Barrueco's transcription of Partita #2. He might change your mind about the Allemande and Courante.

[This message has been edited by Cjsolo (edited 03-01-2004).]

D Norton
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posted 03-01-2004 02:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for D Norton   Click Here to Email D Norton     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Cjsolo:
D. Norton - check out Barrueco's transcription of Partita #2. He might change your mind about the Allemande and Courante.

Someone like Barrueco (or Yamashita, or Del Monte, or Galbraith) *does* put forth a convincing edition. But for "we mere mortals", the Allemande and Courante are still less accessible than the Sarabande and Bouree.

DN

Aryeh
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posted 03-01-2004 03:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aryeh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by D Norton:
Someone like Barrueco (or Yamashita, or Del Monte, or Galbraith) *does* put forth a convincing edition. But for "we mere mortals", the Allemande and Courante are still less accessible than the Sarabande and Bouree.

DN


Wait a minute David, I thought you were talking about the Allemande and Courante from the first Partita. I agree that those movements aren't that effective on the guitar. But Cjsolo was talking about the 2nd Partita in D min where the whole partita sounds great on the guitar though it is not easy.

Aryeh

D Norton
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posted 03-01-2004 08:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for D Norton   Click Here to Email D Norton     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Aryeh,

Yeah, we got tangled up in here somehow. Verbal trainwreck.

To clarify: The Allemande and Courante of the FIRST Partita (1002) don't sit well on the guitar IMO, but top-drawer players can make it sound OK. The whole of the SECOND Partita (1004) fits quite nicely on the guitar, as does all of the THIRD one (1006/1006a).


DN

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